What made you come out of retirement to join Long View?
I was at Shaw for 17 years. I grew up and loved that organization. I was given so much responsibility, so much ability to do whatever I thought was right. Then I retired in 2015. I thought I would stay in retirement until this opportunity came up. I met with the senior execs here. I thought, 'This is Shaw even before I started at Shaw.' This is a company [where] we can make a big difference and grow pretty rapidly. I wanted to be part of it. So I guess I wasn't ready for retirement yet.